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Much Ado about Captioning Videos with Meryl K. Evans, a digital pro who is deaf - Shared screen with speaker view
Meryl Evans (she/her/hey you)
38:07
meryl.net/slides
Vicki Almstrum
38:08
Wondered whether that was illustrative!
Sumner Davenport
40:59
Currently a perfect example of the limitations of autogenerated captions. Several words have been wrong.
Juana Poareo
41:15
Sumner, don't I know it!!!
Juana Poareo
41:20
Auto craptions
Anna
43:40
Children (or anyone learning to read in the language the video is on) are another good use case - they learn how to read and spell faster and better :)
Meghan Murray
44:22
That is a fantastic idea!
植木(インフォアクシア)
50:56
YouTube channelhttps://www.youtube.com/c/MerylKEvans/videos
John F Croston III - jfc3
53:43
Thanks, sir.
Dennis Lembree
54:09
Hi John! Happy belated :-)
John F Croston III - jfc3
55:23
Thanks @DennisL.
Suresha N
55:35
hi everyone,
Heather Neff
01:02:06
Use ADA Compliant color contrast :)
Joe A Simpson Jr
01:06:24
As a scratch chef, I love that show!
Anna
01:06:33
captions being way out of synch is also something anyone who is used to subtitles recognizes :)
Julieanne King (she/her)
01:13:36
Captions on the BottomThe captions at the bottom are also closer to the mouth and we lip read more than we realize.
Kathy
01:13:53
^ yes
Anna
01:14:09
wouldn’t captions (when user can turn them on or off) be always user customizable? so the size can be normal or huge, contrast light or huge etc
Meryl Evans (she/her/hey you)
01:14:27
You're right Julieanne. Videos aren't always talking heads like mine. TV shows show a lot more
Meryl Evans (she/her/hey you)
01:14:49
Anna, if it's closed captions, yes. But not all players allow you to customize it. Depends on the site.
April Sullivan
01:26:16
This is the best presentation on captioning I have attended! Answering all my questions. Thanks!
Kathy
01:33:13
thank you!!
Bill Corrigan
01:33:17
Thank you Meryl!
Mark Francisco (Comcast)
01:33:22
Standing ovation
Sumner Davenport
01:33:23
Awesome-thanks, Meryl
Bouton Jones (he/him/his)
01:33:27
Great presentation.
Heather Neff
01:33:35
Excellent information~
Jonathan Sweet
01:33:35
Thank you so much.
Stacey Swinehart Ganderson
01:33:35
This was awesome!
Amy R Kireta
01:33:37
Lots of great info- thank you!
Potter, Michael
01:33:43
Thank you for your time and expertise! Can you tell us more about creating text files?
Mark Francisco (Comcast)
01:33:44
Is automatic captioning a tool or never a tool?
Suresha N
01:33:52
awesome, thanks again
Anna
01:34:56
Having an accurate captions file is perfect also for making subtitled versions too btw :) so it will be easier to have the same video understandable for people using many different languages than what was spoken
Jonathan Sweet
01:34:59
With auto captioned videos, do you recommend fixing everything as you go, or going through and correcting words first, then line lengths, then synching, etc.?
Joslyn Cardin
01:35:05
Any recommendations on making live webinar events more accessible for users who are deaf or hard of hearing?
John F Croston III - jfc3
01:35:12
QUESTION - Are there other applications to create captions if your don’t have a script? Or is it better to start with auto captions and then clean them up?
Jonathan Sweet
01:35:25
+1 to John’s question.
Bill Corrigan
01:35:39
I say write a script! I will make your video so much better
Shannon R
01:36:18
👏🏼👏🏼 Awe~some presentation!
Bill Corrigan
01:36:19
*It
Anna
01:36:24
yes. good transcripts = ultimate accessibility (as in no sight or hearing needed)
Radina Matic
01:36:41
Thank you, that was great!
Julieanne King (she/her)
01:37:16
QUESTION - Do you have favorite/ preferred audio players for websites provide the best options for transcripts for those that are deaf or hard of hearing?
John F Croston III - jfc3
01:37:53
Joslyn you would use CART - Communication Access Realtime Translation
John F Croston III - jfc3
01:38:02
you can have them done remotely.
Bill Corrigan
01:38:05
My daughter who is hearing-free likes to see the speaker so she can "read lips" so to speak.
Sumner Davenport
01:39:13
@joslyn There are several captioning services. Plus with courts closed many court reporters are home and they are adept at captioning. Shop around. Virtual captioning for webinars and meetings is very affordable.
Juana Poareo
01:40:23
Thanks so much for this WEALTH of information, Meryl!! You did AWESOME!
John F Croston III - jfc3
01:40:53
@joslyn they can be I think $60/hour remotely when I last used them a few years ago. You could find them for more or less.
Joslyn Cardin
01:42:10
Thanks so much, Meryl! And thank you John & Summer for the recommendations! Very helpful!
Julieanne King (she/her)
01:43:16
@Joe yes please for links on Able player
Thomas Knox
01:43:26
https://ableplayer.github.io/ableplayer/
Joe A Simpson Jr
01:43:32
https://ableplayer.github.io/ableplayer/demos/
Kathy
01:43:40
thorough, great examples that illustrate the wide variety of issues
Sumner Davenport
01:43:53
https://github.com/ableplayer/ableplayer
Joe A Simpson Jr
01:44:02
https://www.washington.edu/accesscomputing/resources/accesscomputing-news-june-2019/three-new-features-able-player-40
Joe A Simpson Jr
01:44:39
https://wordpress.org/plugins/ableplayer/
Suresha N
01:44:47
Thank you Joe
Joe A Simpson Jr
01:44:56
Your welcome
Juana Poareo
01:45:04
Does anyone actually know of any affordable virtual captioners??
John F Croston III - jfc3
01:45:46
maybe I got deal through the library I was at.
Juana Poareo
01:45:48
Ok will email you!
Paul Adam
01:47:07
My quote was $125/hour for live zoom captioning with a human captioner
Sue Minor
01:47:23
Thank you, Meryl, for the great presentation! We've had success with Zoom transcripts which need some clean up but do a better job than YouTube autocaptions.
Joe A Simpson Jr
01:47:43
https://www.rev.com/
Juana Poareo
01:47:46
OUCH, that's pricy, Paul... but expected
Sumner Davenport
01:47:55
My captioner ranges from $75-$95 hour
Mark (he/him/his)
01:48:26
I've seen it across the board. The question is live captioner or post production. live is a little more costly.
Mark (he/him/his)
01:48:35
yes, Rev does integrate with Zoom
Sumner Davenport
01:48:41
Captining service is an investment into the success of your business and event.
Juana Poareo
01:48:49
I tried Rev live captions with Zoom and it was laughable
Mark (he/him/his)
01:48:54
white glove at 3playmedia
Juana Poareo
01:48:59
They're working on improving, though
Sumner Davenport
01:49:07
Captioning services can be tax deductible.
Mark (he/him/his)
01:49:40
(meaning expensive)
Anna
01:49:57
Meryl, as a HoH/Deaf person, how do you find movies or tv that are subtitled from some other language in general? or does it depend on the subject in general?
Sumner Davenport
01:51:19
@Mark - I don't believe that captioning is expensive. The benefits far outweight the investment.
Juana Poareo
01:53:15
Exactly, Meryl! Captions will help you stand out because not everyone does it!
Bouton Jones (he/him/his)
01:54:47
Here's something I'd like to see: multiple captioning options. DVDs and Blue Ry discs have multiple audio tracks.
Mark (he/him/his)
01:55:42
@Sumner: I did not mean to say that captioning is too expensive; I said the white glove - make it all happen for you group - can be expensive compared to other captioners, but they do every aspect end to end.
Mark (he/him/his)
01:56:06
I believe in the value of captioning
Mark (he/him/his)
01:57:13
I haven't seen a reason for open captions; is there?
Sumner Davenport
01:57:16
@Mark :)
Julieanne King (she/her)
01:57:23
Meryl this has been great!
Mark (he/him/his)
01:59:17
My second time to see your presentation. It's helpful again and today I carry away more nuances to put into practice.
Thomas Knox
01:59:40
This has been an amazing session. Thank you so so much!
Joslyn Cardin
01:59:53
Agreed! This was fantastic!
植木(インフォアクシア)
01:59:55
Greatest presentation. Domo arigato!
Potter, Michael
02:00:03
Thank you!!
Meryl Evans (she/her/hey you)
02:00:06
Thanks for your support, Mark!
Anna
02:00:13
Great talk. Will want to share the video. Until the next time]